[Choir] THREE birthdays!!

Fri Jun 3 13:56:03 CDT 2022

Not pontificating!!  Discussing what is very important and necessary to
Unitarians and Universalists.   Again, it is something we can profit from
discussing, if only to understand the beliefs of others.

   I forgot to add the following from the beginning of Singing The Living
Tradition  "We, the member congregations of the Unitarian Universalist
Association covenant to affirm and promote :....The Living Tradition we
share draws from many sources by...Jewish and Christian teachings which
call us to respond to God's love by loving our neighbors as ourselves" (and
note "god is capitalized)

I am glad you brought it up and to do so is very appropriate if you do so
with the intention to engage in discussion.  Of course, there are no
"right' answers.  I certainly respect that you don't believe in "god" but
ask that you also respect my beliefs which are different.   Not right, not
wrong, not correct or incorrect, but different.������

Stephen L. Finner, Ph.D.
finnerstephen at gmail.com
(802) 598-4317 (cell)    (802) 461-2528 (home-wifi)
27 Highland Avenue,  Apartment 3
Barre, Vermont 05641

Director of Music, UU Congregation of  Washington VT (summer congregation)
Minister of Music Emeritus, St. Johnsbury Vermont UU Congregation
(he, him, his)
"There must always remain in everyone's life some room for the singing of
angels"   Rev. Dr. Howard Thurman
"May you know the joy of living sometimes comes with pain lived through"
Steve Finner (1998)
"Nothing stays the same after we find the God within"  Sr. Joan Chittister
O.S.B.
And just in case you were wondering "Faith without works is dead" James 2:26

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On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 2:34 PM Lani Seifert <lani.seifert at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry I brought it up.  Just another opportunity for pontificating.
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 2:14 PM Stephen Finner <finnerstephen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I disagree that it is "more appropriate" given that we have sung about
>> Jesus's bloody hands while on the cross (Ave Verrum Corpus"  .  We also
>> make reference to "God" is lots of other things we sing, and I invite you
>> to go through our two hymnals and you will see many times that word is used
>> in hymns we program all the time.  I think your statement is a very
>> dogmatic arms folded 'not me!!!" and probably will start an interesting
>> discussion here.  I would be happy as would Donia, I am sure, lead a
>> discussion about text because it is important.   When discussing text in
>> worship and related activities ("God Danced" is not a worship song, the
>> three most important variables are context , context and context, and did I
>> mention context?   ����
>>
>> And not only do we UU's sing the word "God" often, but also  (GASP)
>> "Lord".   ����
>>
>> The relation between what we believe and what we sing as individuals
>> (and not just UU's but many other faiths) is very nuanced and varied.  I
>> certainly don't believe in an interventionist deity and I qualify as an
>> agnostic or even an atheist ( and  survey research shows many people are
>> atheists about some things and not others) and I am very comfortable
>> singing the word "God" , depending of course on context (there's that word
>> again). ��
>>
>>  I like to refer to the Goddess of my Misunderstanding and can easily
>> hold that in my mind while singing "God" or even the L word.   So you will
>> hear me sing "God" often and I will pray to the Goddess of my
>> misunderstanding that you don't put me on the church lawn in stocks with a
>> sign saying "Believes in God"����
>>
>>
>>
>> Stephen L. Finner, Ph.D.
>> finnerstephen at gmail.com
>> (802) 598-4317 (cell)    (802) 461-2528 (home-wifi)
>> 27 Highland Avenue,  Apartment 3
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/27+Highland+Avenue,%C2%A0+Apartment+3+Barre,+Vermont+05641?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Barre, Vermont 05641
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/27+Highland+Avenue,%C2%A0+Apartment+3+Barre,+Vermont+05641?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> Director of Music, UU Congregation of  Washington VT (summer congregation)
>> Minister of Music Emeritus, St. Johnsbury Vermont UU Congregation
>> (he, him, his)
>> "There must always remain in everyone's life some room for the singing of
>> angels"   Rev. Dr. Howard Thurman
>> "May you know the joy of living sometimes comes with pain lived through"
>> Steve Finner (1998)
>> "Nothing stays the same after we find the God within"  Sr. Joan
>> Chittister O.S.B.
>> And just in case you were wondering "Faith without works is dead" James
>> 2:26
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 1:56 PM Lani Seifert <lani.seifert at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not everyone believes in god, Stephen, so the Happy Birthday song is
>>> more appropriate to* all beliefs.*
>>> Lani
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 1:54 PM Stephen Finner via Choir <
>>> choir at unitarianchurchofmontpelier.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or better yet, God Danced The Day You Were Born, by Andrew Lawrence of
>>>> Toronto
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhAaOeypmsU
>>>>
>>>> By the way, the traditional happy birthday song was written by two
>>>> schoolteacher sisters, Patty (lyrics) and Mildred (tune) Hill in the 1890's
>>>> for kindergarten students and the original lyrics were "Good morning to
>>>> you" 3x,  "Good morning dear students, good morning to you". Contrary to
>>>> false belief it is in the public domain (as is "God Danced...").
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stephen L. Finner, Ph.D.
>>>> finnerstephen at gmail.com
>>>> (802) 598-4317 (cell)    (802) 461-2528 (home-wifi)
>>>> 27 Highland Avenue,  Apartment 3
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/27+Highland+Avenue,%C2%A0+Apartment+3+Barre,+Vermont+05641?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> Barre, Vermont 05641
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/27+Highland+Avenue,%C2%A0+Apartment+3+Barre,+Vermont+05641?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> Director of Music, UU Congregation of  Washington VT (summer
>>>> congregation)
>>>> Minister of Music Emeritus, St. Johnsbury Vermont UU Congregation
>>>> (he, him, his)
>>>> "There must always remain in everyone's life some room for the singing
>>>> of angels"   Rev. Dr. Howard Thurman
>>>> "May you know the joy of living sometimes comes with pain lived
>>>> through"
>>>> Steve Finner (1998)
>>>> "Nothing stays the same after we find the God within"  Sr. Joan
>>>> Chittister O.S.B.
>>>> And just in case you were wondering "Faith without works is dead"
>>>> James 2:26
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 12:28 PM Vamarie via Choir <
>>>> choir at unitarianchurchofmontpelier.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lucky us -- looks like we could sing "Happy Birthday" three times
>>>>> tomorrow! Three Gemini ladies who each bring so much talent to our plucky
>>>>> little choir have birthdays this weekend: June 4th is Tamara's big day, and
>>>>> then Heather and Liz shared June 5th for their birth! So much to celebrate
>>>>> at our social tomorrow!
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy birthday Tamara, Liz and Heather!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ginny
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